During 2012 Matt Welch conducted a provocative interview with nuclear engineer and author Robert Zubrin on ReasonTV. During his interview, Dr. Rubin discussed the results of his research for a book he wrote entitled Merchants of Despair: Radical Environmentalists, Criminal Pseudo-Scientists, and the Fatal Cult of Antihumanism.

We have never been in danger of running out of resources, says Dr. Robert Zubrin, but we have encountered considerable dangers from people who say we are running out of resources and who say that human activities need to be constrained.